05 April 2025

We Can't Bury Her THERE


  

I don't know about my fellow SleuthSayers, but the columns I write for this blog usually come to mind only a few days before they're due, and they're often triggered by a recent event or a conversation or a new publication, etc. The idea for my post today popped into my head while I was out in our back yard this past week, when I happened to hear our behind-our-house neighbors chatting to each other in their back yard--we're separated only by a six-foot-tall cypress fence.

Anyhow, hearing those voices made me think of something out of the past--an incident that happened out there in almost the same spot (though we had different neighbors then), and it's memorable only because it proves that real life can sometimes be a lot stranger than fiction.

Here's some background. Twenty years ago, a film producer who lives about three hours north of us had contacted me several months earlier about a Western story of mine that he'd read in a Canadian magazine. He said he thought it would make a good movie, and (of course) I agreed. After a lot of discussions and negotiations he asked me to write a screenplay for it and was soon in the process of putting together a crew, equipment, casting calls, music, locations, etc. Fortunately he allowed me to take part in most of that --I've never had so much fun--and we were swapping phone calls pretty regularly. (NOTE: Alas, that movie never saw the light of day, but for a year or so it was a real possibility, one that now reminds me of the old joke about the airline pilot who announces to his passengers, "I have good news and bad news. The bad news is, we're lost. The good news is, we're making damn good time.") 

Anyhow, while all this was going on and we were making good time even though we were lost, my Movie Man had decided he also wanted me to come up with a second screenplay, this one a contemporary murder mystery. And here's something else you need to know: Our neighbors in the house behind ours were fairly new to the area, and we hadn't yet met them. All I knew about them was that the husband was tall like me, because we occasionally caught a glimpse of each other over the top of the board fence. 

Okay, back to my story. On this particular day, a Saturday afternoon, my wife Carolyn was in the kitchen and I was out in our back yard, talking on my cell phone with the producer about the plot of my aforementioned in-progress mystery screenplay. The call lasted a long time, as our calls usually did, and when I disconnected and walked in though our back door, Carolyn looked up at me from whatever she was doing and said, "Do you realize what you just said, out there?"

I stopped and gave her my usual clueless stare. "What do you mean, what I just said?"

She pointed to our breakfast-room window, which looked out onto our back yard and--on that day--was open to let in the cool breeze of a nice spring weekend. "For one thing," she said, "you were talking too loud. I could hear every word."

"So, what'd I say?"

"You said, 'We can't bury her there.'"

Then I remembered. We'd been discussing the plotline, and my producer friend had suggested that one of my main characters, who had murdered his wife, should plant her body in a flowerbed on their property, which I didn't think was a good idea.

Continuing, my wife said, "You almost shouted it. After that, you said, 'We should bury her down by the railroad tracks instead, where nobody'll ever find her.'"

I still didn't see what the big deal was. I said, "So?"

She rolled her eyes. "So, our new neighbor was out in his back yard, the whole time you were talking. I saw the top of his head go by a couple of times, above the fence."

Understanding finally dawned. "You think he heard what I said?"

"Unless he's stone deaf, he did."

Well, I remember thinking, Even if he did hear me, he probably thought nothing about it. Besides, what was done was done. I shrugged and asked, "What's for supper?" 

And seriously, I thought no more about it. Until two days later, when I was mowing the grass.

We live on a big corner lot, and at the place where our side lawn bordered our neighbor's lawn, outside the fence and between it and the side street, I saw a shiny new sign, about a foot square, one of those flimsy metal Ten Commandments-like signs with two little wire legs, sticking up out of the grass on our property line. The sign was aimed at our house, and it said, in big printed letters, YOU ARE BEING PRAYED FOR. 

When I finished mowing, I came into the house, hot and sweaty, and reported this news to Carolyn. As it turned out, she'd done some research the previous day, and she now informed me that the husband half of the neighbor couple was the new youth minister at the local Baptist church. For some reason that struck me as funny, but she was not at all amused. I think she strongly suspected that the police might soon show up with drawn guns and a lot of questions about my future plans for burial sites and who might get buried there.

The cops and FBI never arrived, but what did happen was that our backyard neighbors moved away the following week--I swear that's true--and to this day my wife is convinced it was because of my big mouth and my announce-it-to-the-whole-neighborhood plot plans.

Final note, just to ease your mind: Unlike my suspicious wife, I'm fairly certain that (1) our neighbor did not hear what I was saying that day, (2) that sign probably had nothing at all to do with that incident, and (3) neither did our neighbors' sudden relocation to greener pastures. And you might be pleased to hear that I do now try not to talk so loudly on the phone (especially if my immediate family is listening). 

As I said, all this happened long ago, and in all the years since, I have never attempted to use that goofy incident in one of my short stories. Why?

Because fiction must be believable to the reader--and I doubt that this story, even though it's true, would be able to pass that test.

That's one thing that's always bothered me, about writing: Nonfiction is more easily accepted; it doesn't have to be believable. If it happened, it happened, strange or not--in fact, the stranger the better. With fiction, there are restrictions. If it's too strange, it won't work. On the one hand, we as writers are encouraged to mine our past experiences to come up with compelling story ideas, and on the other hand, we have to be careful not to make it too true. Has that kind of thing ever happened to you?

Real Life, as they say, is a trip. You can't make this sh*t up.


  


31 comments:

  1. John, I disagree. This would make good fiction, comedic or otherwise, especially in your capable hands.

    Edward Lodi

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    1. That's kind of you, Edward. Maybe someday, when I run out of other ideas . . .

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  2. John, I love your tall tales, and you're the perfect guy to tell them. In this case, I choose to believe that Carolyn was right.

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    1. Liz, this tale is tall for sure, and unfortunately true. I'm probably lucky that all turned out well. Take care!

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  3. Oh how funny! LOL

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    1. But not at the time.

      Thanks, Anonymous, for stopping in at SleuthSayers!

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  4. I have to disagree with you. Having met in restaurants with SinC members where we discussed everything from poisons to body disposal, I have seen the non-writers around us recoil. This situation-- where someone overhears and misunderstands-- has happened to most of the mystery writers I know, so I can't call it strange or unusual. It's a pretty common comedic situation.

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    1. Yep, I agree that overheard conversations do work, as story ideas--just look at some of the sitcoms we've all seen--but in this case it seemed a real stretch, to me. What it really was, I think, was a string of coincidences (the subject of the conversation, the fact that my neighbor was in earshot, the sign in the yard, his occupation, their move out of the area, etc.), and coincidences are things that sometimes work and sometimes don't, in fiction. But maybe you're right--I do hate to leave a good idea unused!

      Thanks for the note.

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  5. Years ago when we were living in India, my husband got what he thought was a great idea for a murder mystery. We talked about it over dinner and afterwards in some detail. Just as we were ready to move on to another topic I glanced at the woman who came in to cook and serve dinner. The look on her face said it all. I explained in my limited Malayalam what we were doing. She would have none of it. She had enough English to say, Practicing? You're practicing? Fortunately, nothing happened to anyone we knew there.

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    1. Ha! So I'm not the only one, Susan! I hope she didn't change jobs shortly afterward!

      India, huh? Interesting!--I bet you got lots of story ideas from that part of your life.

      Thank you as always for chiming in.

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  6. Funny story. But I actually believe this would make a great fictional story! The thing is, you can turn pretty much ANYTHING into fiction ... whether it's believable to the reader or not depends entirely on how convincingly the writer can make the CHARACTERS react to the unbelievable stuff. In other words, the plot doesn't need to be strictly believable, if only the characters' reactions to it are. You could put everything that happened to you in a story, then have your character (or characters) constantly say things like, "This is too crazy" or "You won't believe what just happened" or "This would never work in a book or movie" etc. ... just like you did, in fact. Then I'm sure it'll work!

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    1. Yoshinori, you're talking me into it. Granted, I have come up with some convoluted stories before, so maybe you're right. With this particular incident, I clearly recall how weird I thought it was, that all these things fell into place--but they did. A certain person with a certain background (occupation) had to be in a certain place at a certain time and react in a certain way to a certain snippet of conversation.

      I'll let you know if I do it!

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    2. Well, I'm sure stranger things have happened ... in real life as well as in mystery fiction! Good luck!

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    3. Thanks!!

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  7. Fun story. I do agree with several others here--I can definitely see this incident being woven into a fictional story.

    Thanks for sharing this,
    Daniel

    Daniel C. Bartlett

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    1. Thank YOU, Daniel. (But now everybody'd know how it turns out . . .)

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  8. Oh wow - Yup, I have a story! Many years ago, I was co-writing a mystery novel with a friend (she's coming for lunch on Tuesday, by the way!) And I wrote my next few pages which consisted of a woman's internal monologue about how she found out her husband was cheating and how she was going to kill him - and I inadvertently sent it to the wrong 'Linda' (I had three on my email.) Soon after the phone rang and a panicked Linda tried to talk me down from murder...But I think your story wins. :)

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    1. Whoa, Melodie, I like yours better.

      I bet sending emails to the wrong recipient, or doing a REPLY ALL when you shouldn't, has gotten a lot of folks in trouble. (And so can AutoCorrect--I HATE AutoCorrect.)

      If you'll use your true story in one of your fictional stories, I'll use mine.

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    2. I never could resist a dare! grin Mel

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    3. Bad deal for me--Yours'll make a better story!

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  9. Oh, John, this made me laugh. And, yes, I have two stories.
    The first a group of writers when out to a diner after a meeting. Of course, all we talked about while eating was how to comment the perfect murder. Behind me, I later noticed, was a group of police officers. I smiled and said, "We're mystery writers." Just to be sure they new.
    The other time I was walking thru the mall with my husband and some how the plot of my work-in-progress came up and I said, "If I'm going to rob the bank maybe I should check the lobby out ahead of time." Hubby said, "You do know you are walking in a mall with a bank and people can hear you."

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    1. Whoa, Pat, that's cheating if you come right out and tell the listeners that you aren't guilty! Just kiddin. Thank goodness no police officers were in earshot when I did my blabbing.

      In the mall, did a bunch of security guys start following you and your hubby around? That would right away answer the question of whether you were overheard.

      Sounds like both of us have to be more careful . . .

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  10. I was going to disagree with you, John, and say this had all the makings of a great story, but Yoshinori Todo beat me to the punch. I can see your fictional neighbor (the main character) snooping around to catch the fictional John Floyd in the act. It would be hilarious, especially under the deft hand of John Floyd. When the movie is made, John Cleese would make a great spying neighbor. He's got the height. If Don Knotts were still alive, he'd make a great John Floyd. Considering that Knotts is not available, I'd recommend Liam Hemsworth or perhaps Austin Butler. Both are over six feet. Your wife? Amy Adams, Keira Knightley, or maybe Angelina Jolie. Sofia Loren is too long in the tooth. Just a thought. Paula

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    1. Ha! If that ever happened, I'd sure want you in charge of casting.

      The funny thing is, I suspect that our neighbor at the time (1) was not only not spying, he wasn't even listening, (2) he put that sign up without ever even having me in mind, and (3) had already planned that relocation to another town. In other words, the whole thing was a series of coincidences. But my wife saw, in her mind, a gigantic screwup with all kinds of policemen closing in. And that *would* have the makings of a comedy story.

      Thanks as always, Paula!

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  11. Love it! I have long said that if anyone ever got hold of the little pad of paper I carry everywhere and read the notes... I would be getting some definite inquiries from law enforcement.

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    1. You're right, Eve! In your case, they'd even have the incriminating evidence IN WRITING!

      Don't worry, I'd come visit you with a nail file hidden in a cake.

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  12. Joining Yoshinori and Paula on Team Write This Story, John…I bet you’d turn it into something fantastic! I’ll be looking out for it.
    When we first moved to NC about 10 years ago, we moved to a lovely neighborhood across from a couple. We met Brenda, a lady about my mom’s age, and for the first month or so, there was a man living there too—a postal worker I assumed was her husband. Anyway, I was navigating an overseas move , 3 kids under 7, and being pregnant, so I never paid much attention to our neighbors until Brenda suddenly had company for about 3 weeks. There were deliveries of mulch, gravel, saplings, and soil almost daily…and several of her family members moving it all to the backyard. Maybe she was doing a major landscaping project in her fenced off backyard…I dunno. What I do know is that I never saw that man I thought was her husband after that project started, or ever again afterwards. Trust me, I looked. Maybe it’s just my mystery-minded imagination, or maybe he really IS buried under the pristine lawn and Bradford pears. All I know is, when he eventually DOES turn up, they’d better find me for the inevitable documentary!
    Ashley-Ruth M Bernier

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    1. Yep, sounds like she did him in, Ashley. That does sound like a good documentary--or at least a 20-20 episode.

      Postal workers just can't seem to catch a break.

      Thanks as always. Love these true stories!!

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  13. You should write it. Even if no one believes it, you should pass it off as a fever dream if no one believes it.

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    1. Justin, there are several of my old published stories that I wish I *could* pass off as fever dreams.

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