I like movies. In fact I love 'em, and have probably helped keep several local theaters in business over the years. These days, my movie watching is mostly on the small screen, but between the many DVDs I own and the many movies out there and available for streaming (for me, it's mostly Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Apple TV Plus), there aren't many I want to see that I haven't seen.
But . . . I also watch more than my share of bad movies. Oddly enough--or maybe not so oddly--a lot of those movie disappointments have been sequels. I can't think of many novel sequels I didn't like --Scarlett does come to mind, along with The Death Cure and Go Set a Watchman--but there were many, many movie sequels that fell short. Some of them short by a long way.
In my defense, why would I not look forward to moviemakers' attempts to follow up on classics like Rocky, Jaws, The Magnificent Seven, Wall Street, Saturday Night Fever, The Sting, Get Shorty, Halloween, Speed, Poltergeist, The Exorcist, The Man from Snowy River, Crocodile Dundee, Romancing the Stone, Under Siege, Escape from New York, Airplane!, City Slickers, Our Man Flint, Dirty Harry, etc.? But every single one of the sequels to those twenty movies (at least in my opinion) fell flat.
There are, though, exceptions.
Here are a dozen movie sequels that I think were as good, and in come cases better, than the originals. I ranked them from 1 to 12 because that makes it sound like I know what I'm doing, with #1 being the best.
NOTE: I'm referring here to first sequels, not Rocky 4 or Die Hard 5, etc. Almost all of those after-the-second-sequels are terrible. The only more distant sequels that come to mind that weren't bad were Back to the Future III; Goldfinger; Return of the Jedi; The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly; the third Indiana Jones (The Last Crusade); the third Lord of the Rings (The Return of the King); and the fourth Mad Max (Fury Road). I liked all of those.
Anyhow, here's my list of (what I think are) watchable sequels:
12. A Shot in the Dark (1964) -- Not as famous as the original, but it's a better movie. And the best of the Pink Panther series. Still funny, sixty years later.
11. Spider-Man 2 (2004) -- At least as well done as the original, and the love-story part of the movie might be even better. Great villain, too--hard to believe he's the same guy who threw the idol (not the whip) to Indiana Jones, in Raiders.
10. The Road Warrior (1981) -- I think everything about The Road Warrior was better than Mad Max--and I liked Mad Max. The last twenty minutes of the sequel is crazy but fun, and nonstop action.
9. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) -- A vast improvement over the first movie. Good plot, good suspense, good villain (Ricardo Montalban with a blond shag hairdo--if that doesn't creep you out, nothing will.)
8. Superman II (1980) -- Maybe not better than the original, but every bit as good. It was also the last quality movie in this series--from there on, Supe ran downhill.
7. The Empire Strikes Back (1980) -- At least as well done, possibly better, than the first Star Wars. Better acting, cool plot lines, better special effects.
6. From Russia with Love (1963) -- This was the fifth Bond book but the second movie, and--like the first one--it stuck closely to the novel, which helped. As in the Star Wars and Superman franchises, the first few installments were the best.
5. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) -- Again, an improvement on an already good original. One of James Cameron's best movies, and that's saying a lot.
4. For a Few Dollars More (1965) -- As much as I liked the first of Eastwood's spaghetti Westerns (A Fistful of Dollars), this one's better. The music, the plot, everything, plus Lee Van Cleef. Even non-Western fans have told me they love this movie.
3. The Silence of the Lambs (1991) -- The original, believe it or not, didn't feature Anthony Hopkins as Dr. Lecter. It was Manhunter, which was okay but not as good as its sequel. Lambs won, deservedly, the top four Oscars that year (Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Director), plus three more.
2. Godfather II (1974) -- It's as good as the original, which was wonderful. I think this was the first movie sequel to win Best Picture.
1. Aliens (1986) -- Not only does this one top my list, it was the best of the Alien franchise and one of the best movies I've ever seen. Watch it sometime, if you haven't already.
Possible runners-up: The Gods Must Be Crazy II, Top Gun: Maverick; Catching Fire. Toy Story 2.
Once again, this is my opinion and mine only--and yes, Liz Zelvin, I realize most of these are "guy" movies. My apologies--although you must admit both Silence of the Lambs and Aliens had great female protagonists. Don't forget, I also loved Somewhere in Time, which--though it wasn't a sequel--was a romantic fantasy and had no shootouts at all. (There's hope for me yet.)
As for recent sequels, I watched Twisters the other night, and I understand the sequel to Gladiator was released a couple of weeks ago. I confess I was disappointed in Twisters, and I also don't have the highest of hopes for Gladiator 2. What I do hope is that no one tries to make a sequel to Galaxy Quest, The Shawshank Redemption, The Big Country, Body Heat, Reservoir Dogs, The Rocketeer, Once Upon a Time in the West, L.A. Confidential, Medicine Man, Casablanca, Forrest Gump, No Country for Old Men, Raising Arizona, Signs, The Big Lebowski, Witness, Shane, Dances with Wolves, 12 Angry Men, and so on. If they do, there'll be at least 1 angry man. Just leave those originals alone.
Now . . . What do you think, about all this? Have you seen any truly terrible, barf-baggable sequels? Any that you had high hopes for, beforehand? Any good ones? Which ones did I leave out? Do you disagree with some (or most) that I picked? How about novel sequels? Let me know, in the comments below. Inquiring minds want to inquire . . .
Next time, back to mystery fiction. I promise.
Interesting piece, John! One "niggle" however -- I think technically To Kill a Mockingbird is the sequel, not Go Set a Watchman. Watchman was Harper Lee's first draft, which was rejected and the publisher said basically "try again, and focus on Star's childhood with Atticus. The only reason Watchman came out second was that it was never intended to be published but was found among Harper Lee's papers shortly before she died. Also the two can't really exist in the same universe since the case that Atticus loses in Mockingbird he wins in Watchman.
ReplyDeleteYour niggle is correct. But I maintain that it was a far less interesting story than the original, one that I doubt Lee would've EVER agreed to have published. That's probably the case with a number of these only-discovered-later manuscripts. But such is the business, right?
DeleteTo Kill a Mockingbird has to be 1st in our minds...as that is all we've known for years on end and has shaped our views on life, liberty, justice. Watchmen, found too late but it's relevance displaced. Editor was right...needed 'something' more....
DeleteOops -- that previous comment was not intended to be anonymous. It was by me!
ReplyDeleteAnd you are still correct, Dale! Funny thing is, I found myself looking forward to reading Watchman, when I first heard about it--and now I wish I hadn't bothered.
DeleteYep. And I will never be able to embrace the Atricus character in Watchman. It would be like making Gregory Peck play Dr. Joseph Mengele. (Oh, wait a minute . . . he did that, didn't he?)
DeleteErr, that was me again!
DeleteYep, Dale, he DID play Mengele--and that wasn't convincing either. I can think of several good-guy actors who have played villains at least once or twice (Peck, James Garner, Andy Griffith, James Stewart, Doug McClure) and shouldn't have. Well, except Fred MacMurray in Double Indemnity. That worked.
DeleteMy God, talk about getting off on tangents . . .
Liked most of these, John, and only difference? I would put A Shot in the Dark as number one! But then, I'm a comedy writer, and this is one of my top five comedies (post on that coming up soon). I can compare all this to second books of a series, in many ways (post on that coming too!! The Silent Film Star murders debuts in March) Thanks for the list- I'm going to revisit a few!
ReplyDeleteMelodie, that movie came out when I was in high school, though I didn't see it until my college years, and I can quote some of the lines. I think most of us went to see it, back then, because of Elke Sommer. I re-watched it not long ago and was amazed that some of it really WAS still hilarious. And I like its music even more than the old Pink Panther theme. Sellers was a complicated guy in many ways, but boy was he funny.
DeleteGood luck with the next book!
barf-baggable sequel: The Two Jakes. This disappointment was made worse because Chinatown was so good.
ReplyDeleteJim, I can't believe I didn't think to mention that one, in the part about big disappointments. I found a DVD awhile back that features both Chinatown and Jakes, and watched them both again not long ago, back to back. You are so right. Why didn't they leave well enough alone?
DeleteWhy the sequel? $, I assume. On this subject, one of the best books on film and writing that I have read is The Big Goodbye by Sam Wasson. Chinatown. All the writer's problems are here.
DeleteYep, $ for sure. And whoa!--I have NOT read the Wasson book. But I will. Thanks!
DeleteA Shot in the Dark is my favorite Clouseau movie. I agree with your picks for don't you DARE make a sequel to that! Most sequels are bad, simply because the originals are so good, so well cast, so well acted, etc., that it was lightning captured in a bottle, and that's very hard to repeat.
ReplyDeleteEve, I could watch A Shot in the Dark a hundred times and never tire of it.
DeleteI'm not sure how the moviemakers did such a good job on a few of the sequels, like Godfather II, but I suspect it's because they brought back the original actors, etc. Yes, it must be hard to repeat.
John, I adored Superman II. If I remember correctly, it was the one in which Superman got amnesia (zapped with kryptonite? I forget the details) and started having feelings. Uh, there was a prequel to Aliens? Oh, just looked it up and saw the original was Alien singular. Who knew? Also saw they're gonna make Avatar 3, 4, and 5. Naah, the original was magic and shoulda won the Oscar. The second was pretty but by then we'd seen it all, and the plot was nothing but corny tropes.
ReplyDeleteHey Liz. Yep, Supe II was good, and brought back almost all the original cast plus some more. And yes, the Aliens prequel was singular, not plural, and the original monster caused a world of grief on the ship (Nostromo?)--the director of the first Alien did the same thing Spielberg did with Jaws, and waited until near the end to actually reveal the creature, and that Hitchcockian buildup of suspense was half the fun. Still, the second movie was much better. And yes, the Avatar folks are saying there'll be more--who knows if that's a good ideam, and whether it'll even happen? Maybe they'll do what Taylor Sheridan does, and never quite finish their projects and plans. And I agree with you on Avatar--the magic of the first one was lost the second time around. (I could talk movies with you all day . . .)
DeleteI like your list of sequels. I've seen a lot of them. Yes, Superman II and Godfather II. A Shot in the Dark...so grand for re-watch. But some stories never should be sequeled. Sophie's Choice, A Beautiful Mind, Out of Africa, Pretty Woman (Top Gun should be in this list of mine, too. But alas, sequel out there...didn't have to same tone--too much thrill ride, less substance.) Generally, when I hear sequel, I turn away....but they still bring in a lot of folks and money.
ReplyDeleteI thought I watched too many movies....John Floyd, you reign as King of Movie Watchers
I agree: Hear sequel, turn away (or try to). The exceptions to that rule are few. As for Top Gun, I liked the sequel, but it--like Avatar--didn't have that magic that originals often do. And YES, sequels, even the stinkers, bring in tons of viewers and tons of money, and that's the reason they'll continue to be made.
DeleteI also agree that I--probably both of us--watch too many movies. I absolutely love 'em, and have wasted untold hours on the bad ones. But the great ones make it all worthwhile . . .
Twisters was basically an elevated Hallmark movie, if you take out the tornado elements.
ReplyDeleteYou forgot a few good sequels:
The Mummy Returns
Batman Returns
The Dark Knight (Granted, sequel to the Reboot Batman Begins)
A Nightmare On Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (A second sequel, but still pretty solid).
Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame (Are we counting Marvel movies?)
A lot of the Harry Potter sequels are good too.
Justin, you're right--Except for Spidey and Supe, I forgot and left out superheroes, and Harry too. As for Twisters, it suffered from not only a poor plot but from not having any of that great original cast (which had either moved on to bigger things or--like Hoffman and Paxton--died early).
DeleteHere's one nobody has mentioned: Blade Runner 2049. I love the original (actually, I love the director's cut of the original, without the cringe-inducing voiceover), and I thought director Denis Villeneuve did a fantastic job of tipping his hat to Ridley Scott while still crafting something new that was much more than a retread. It's not a perfect film (Jared Leto was a bad casting choice), but Ryan Gosling is genuinely terrific and Harrison Ford certainly seems more engaged than he did in his recent Star Wars and Indiana Jones returns.
ReplyDeleteJoe, you're right--I liked the second Blade Runner, which to me was sort of a surprise. I didn't think I would. Someone else contacted me on Facebook today, about this blog, and said the Blade Runner sequel was one of the good ones. These comments are reminding me of a lot of great sequels that I forgot to list, and that I need to go back and watch again! (So many movies, so much time to waste . . .)
DeleteAs for Harrison Ford, he's beginning to look, in these movies and TV shows lately--especially one of the Yellowstone "prequels"--that he's bored with the whole deal. But he's still one of my heroes.
It's a good list. A possible addition is The Bride of Frankenstein, which is better than Frankenstein because of Else Lancaster, Ernest Thesiger, and the fact that James Whale's direction has more spirit and abandon than the original. I don't know that Shot in the Dark is better than The Pink Panther or just different--it actually has a mystery to be solved because it was based on a play, although somewhat freely adapted, while Panther has no mystery and is pure farce. I would not agree that Superman II is better than the original if we are talking about the original release directed by Richard Lester, which verges on self-parody. I would agree if we are talking about the director's cut, directed by Richard Donner and released later, which brings back Brando and has a similar balance of fantasy and reverence.
ReplyDeleteGood points, John, about the original Superman. And that reminds me of what a hit that movie was, at the Oscars that year--the John Williams theme song seemed to be playing every time they announced the winner of a category. Long time ago, but it'll always be a fantastic movie. Richard Donner was one of the greats. (I can't help remembering that Brando's and Gene Hackman's names appeared before Christopher Reeve's, in the opening credits!)
DeleteAn I'd forgotten all about Bride of Frankenstein. Thanks for these thoughts!
I liked "The Whole Nine Yards" but the sequel, "The Whole Ten Yards" if memory serves, was terrible.
ReplyDeleteElizabeth, your memory serves just fine--it WAS terrible. (But a cool title.)
DeleteJohn, I always appreciate joining you to celebrate For a Few Dollars More and its clever storytelling. Anything Lee Van Cleef, squinty-eyed master of minimalism, takes part in is worth at least a glance.
ReplyDeleteNot counting the original Peter Sellers Casino Royale, most people seem to favor the opulent, bigger budgeted Thunderbolt and Goldfinger as the best of the Bond films. They may be right, maybe, but I have a soft spot for the first two. From Russia with Love and Dr. No get a big yes from me. Perhaps it’s fading memory, but I’ve come to appreciate the terrifying Colonel Klebb more and more. The badder the bad guy, the better the movie.
For some reason, I never took to ST2 Wrath of Kahn like most viewers did. I’m not sure why. It was better than ST1, but I felt the series really came into its on with ST3.
My brother recommended Manhunter before Silence of the Lambs came out. I didn’t immediately twig they were connected when I read the books until I realized Manhunter had been renamed.
I'm not big bildungsroman horror films, but I liked Ginger Snaps. In a sequel, I would have liked to see Ginger reappear, but the sequel was disappointing for a number of reasons including the chemistry between the sisters A prequel immediately released, Ginger Snaps Back, slightly better than the sequel but wholly unnecessary.
DeleteLeigh, I think we're justified in our mutual appreciation for For a Few Dollars More. Love that movie. I'm afraid I do think Goldfinger is the very best Bond movie, but didn't put it in my list of 12 because it wasn't the *first* sequel. I do agree that Russian Rosa Klebb remains terrifying.
DeleteOkay, I made a note of Ginger Snaps. I remember seeing its title but never saw the movie. I also haven't seen Star Trek 3 for many years now. I love these reminders! My popcorn's waiting.
Thanks as always!
About things they should have stopped after the first one: Jurassic Park ... weak and weaker as we go. Lethal Weapon 2 was decent. But my big winner is Paddington 2!!!! Oh wait, the Bourne stuff (with Matt Damon) is great all through.
ReplyDeleteYep, first Jurassic Park was the best, Martine, and so it was with Lethal Weapon, in my opinion. And I think EVERYbody loved the second Paddington.
DeleteNow you've made me want to re-watch all the Bournes.